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		<title>By: Angie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Angie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Oct 2010 00:50:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My two year old loved it last year!!!Now he is 3 and cant wait! he keeps talking about it...We&#039;re going tonight!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My two year old loved it last year!!!Now he is 3 and cant wait! he keeps talking about it&#8230;We&#8217;re going tonight!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Ronnie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ronnie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Oct 2010 21:50:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, It&#039;s good to know Kristin Dewey and her screaming crying complaining children won&#039;t be there to ruin everything!
Hahaha!
People like her really get under my skin....
P.S
The people that put in their hard work @ the park really do a fantastic job!
Bravo to them all!
R.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, It&#8217;s good to know Kristin Dewey and her screaming crying complaining children won&#8217;t be there to ruin everything!<br />
Hahaha!<br />
People like her really get under my skin&#8230;.<br />
P.S<br />
The people that put in their hard work @ the park really do a fantastic job!<br />
Bravo to them all!<br />
R.</p>
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		<title>By: jJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>jJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Oct 2010 21:35:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love when people take their children on a ride called &quot;The Ghost Train &quot; and the whine &amp; complane of it being scary or not appropriate fir young children, ummm DUH! A good parent should know their child well enough  to know if they will cry and beg to get off ( meanwhile completely ruining the experience for everyone else within ear shot )
And then have the nerve to complain about it!
Sometimes I wonder if all the oblivious people migrate to Burbank on purpose ...
*Hint- Ghost Train = Scary! 
* Parents use YOUR judgement !
Ugh!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love when people take their children on a ride called &#8220;The Ghost Train &#8221; and the whine &amp; complane of it being scary or not appropriate fir young children, ummm DUH! A good parent should know their child well enough  to know if they will cry and beg to get off ( meanwhile completely ruining the experience for everyone else within ear shot )<br />
And then have the nerve to complain about it!<br />
Sometimes I wonder if all the oblivious people migrate to Burbank on purpose &#8230;<br />
*Hint- Ghost Train = Scary!<br />
* Parents use YOUR judgement !<br />
Ugh!</p>
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		<title>By: Paola</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paola</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Aug 2010 05:43:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My family including my 3rd old loved this ride last year and is really looking forward to it again. I guess it depends on the child and not so much on the age, however if he were to ever hint that he felt uncomfortable (you can totally feel them out while waiting in line) we would walk out in heartbeat not only for him but to not ruin the great ride for everyone else.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My family including my 3rd old loved this ride last year and is really looking forward to it again. I guess it depends on the child and not so much on the age, however if he were to ever hint that he felt uncomfortable (you can totally feel them out while waiting in line) we would walk out in heartbeat not only for him but to not ruin the great ride for everyone else.</p>
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		<title>By: Sam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 16:58:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To bad that some adults can&#039;t read or hear. There are signs posted that tell you what to do and talking bones that tell you what to do. This must have been the person that in line in front of me that with the other adults keep draging this poor kid along that realy did not want to ride the train, or see the ghost. It realy sounds like they need to go to school and learn that no I don&#039;t want to ride means no I don&#039;t want to ride. You must be the new standard parent that it is not my job to teach my kid what is real and not real. My only hope is you kid does not grow up to be like you.
 This was a fun and safe ride no matter what a bimbo says I can&#039;t wait till next year. The best part was watching all of the kids having a good time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To bad that some adults can&#8217;t read or hear. There are signs posted that tell you what to do and talking bones that tell you what to do. This must have been the person that in line in front of me that with the other adults keep draging this poor kid along that realy did not want to ride the train, or see the ghost. It realy sounds like they need to go to school and learn that no I don&#8217;t want to ride means no I don&#8217;t want to ride. You must be the new standard parent that it is not my job to teach my kid what is real and not real. My only hope is you kid does not grow up to be like you.<br />
 This was a fun and safe ride no matter what a bimbo says I can&#8217;t wait till next year. The best part was watching all of the kids having a good time.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeanni Schipper</title>
		<link>http://creepyla.com/blog/2009/10/22/griffith-park-night-time-halloween-train-ride/#comment-3086</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeanni Schipper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 18:39:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Ghost Train at LALS transports thousands of passengers each Halloween, most of whom are young children. Countless repeat customers (7000 last year) return year after year to see what&#039;s new and spooky. It is one of the few child-friendly haunted attractions around, and it&#039;s popularity and ridership increases each year are a testament to the fact it is wildly popular with young and old alike. 

If you&#039;ve been in nearly any Halloween store in town, you would have already seen many of the decorations and props mentioned above, including this season&#039;s hugely popular ZomBabies, Rocking Granny and Psycho Sam.  As a Halloween store owner in a local mall, I&#039;ve witnessed hundreds of children coming into my shop daily - half of whom are dragging their parents inside, and the other who won&#039;t get past the first 10 feet if they are frightened.  Most parents already know whether their child can handle a spooky environment.  In my shop, if they get scared upon entering, (and many do) the parents immediately recognize it and act accordingly by simply escorting them outside.  Sadly, I&#039;ve witnessed a lot of insensitive parents forcing their distraught child to stay in order to toughen them up, or promising them they will like it. Worse still, one young mother even delighted in deliberately scaring her toddler by carrying her and thrusting her face into several of the animated toy props until the baby was crying and sobbing. (at which time, I told her what I thought about it).  In short, I&#039;ve observed a lot of poor judgment by parents regarding assessment of their children&#039;s fear.

While it is very unfortunate her child was so terrified on the train, it is hard to understand why it took her so long to recognize it was a spooky event. The entry courtyard and ticket line has plenty of animations and displays surrounding it, accompanied by spooky lighting and sounds, and the grounds are filled with fog.  All of this sensory assault and spooky atmosphere is just in the line to board the trains.  Surely this frightened child must have exhibited fear before they even boarded a train. 

It is ultimately up to parents to determine what venue is best for their child, and to choose appropriately.  The decision whether to take them to ride the haunted Ghost Train at night in the dark, versus visiting the local Pumpkin Patch rests squarely on the shoulders of the parents.  If this lady misjudged her child&#039;s fear level, it doesn&#039;t seem very fair to blame the event for being what it is...a spooky Halloween Ghost Train ride.

To set the record straight, LALS has very strict rules involving the trains and their operation, and during the Halloween run they hold safety meetings nightly and are prepared at all times to stop any train immediately, particularly for any crying or terrified child. The conductor can stop on a dime if he sees someone in distress, or a passenger raises a hand as instructed before boarding.  With two way radios, or a simple whistle, the conductor can alert the engineer to stop the train immediately.  Upon entering the park as passengers wait to board the trains, Mortimer&#039;s Mortuary does a sketch with an animated skeleton explaining the rules of riding the trains, including instructions on how to stop the train in an emergency.  Additionally, instructions are broadcast during the wait in line every five minutes with clear instructions for passengers to follow, including how to stop the train.  Safety personnel walk the rails throughout the night with two-way radios to alert anyone to any unusual situation which could arise such as this.  The implication that anyone at LALS would knowingly or deliberately force them to endure the entire 20 minute ride with a wailing, terrified five year old child is not only wrong, it is absurd. 

These volunteer club members take great pains to ensure a safe and fun ride for their passengers, and are especially sensitive to children - their biggest fans - with a successful track record of eleven years for this popular Halloween event.

Jeanni Schipper
Spooky Chic Halloween</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Ghost Train at LALS transports thousands of passengers each Halloween, most of whom are young children. Countless repeat customers (7000 last year) return year after year to see what&#8217;s new and spooky. It is one of the few child-friendly haunted attractions around, and it&#8217;s popularity and ridership increases each year are a testament to the fact it is wildly popular with young and old alike. </p>
<p>If you&#8217;ve been in nearly any Halloween store in town, you would have already seen many of the decorations and props mentioned above, including this season&#8217;s hugely popular ZomBabies, Rocking Granny and Psycho Sam.  As a Halloween store owner in a local mall, I&#8217;ve witnessed hundreds of children coming into my shop daily &#8211; half of whom are dragging their parents inside, and the other who won&#8217;t get past the first 10 feet if they are frightened.  Most parents already know whether their child can handle a spooky environment.  In my shop, if they get scared upon entering, (and many do) the parents immediately recognize it and act accordingly by simply escorting them outside.  Sadly, I&#8217;ve witnessed a lot of insensitive parents forcing their distraught child to stay in order to toughen them up, or promising them they will like it. Worse still, one young mother even delighted in deliberately scaring her toddler by carrying her and thrusting her face into several of the animated toy props until the baby was crying and sobbing. (at which time, I told her what I thought about it).  In short, I&#8217;ve observed a lot of poor judgment by parents regarding assessment of their children&#8217;s fear.</p>
<p>While it is very unfortunate her child was so terrified on the train, it is hard to understand why it took her so long to recognize it was a spooky event. The entry courtyard and ticket line has plenty of animations and displays surrounding it, accompanied by spooky lighting and sounds, and the grounds are filled with fog.  All of this sensory assault and spooky atmosphere is just in the line to board the trains.  Surely this frightened child must have exhibited fear before they even boarded a train. </p>
<p>It is ultimately up to parents to determine what venue is best for their child, and to choose appropriately.  The decision whether to take them to ride the haunted Ghost Train at night in the dark, versus visiting the local Pumpkin Patch rests squarely on the shoulders of the parents.  If this lady misjudged her child&#8217;s fear level, it doesn&#8217;t seem very fair to blame the event for being what it is&#8230;a spooky Halloween Ghost Train ride.</p>
<p>To set the record straight, LALS has very strict rules involving the trains and their operation, and during the Halloween run they hold safety meetings nightly and are prepared at all times to stop any train immediately, particularly for any crying or terrified child. The conductor can stop on a dime if he sees someone in distress, or a passenger raises a hand as instructed before boarding.  With two way radios, or a simple whistle, the conductor can alert the engineer to stop the train immediately.  Upon entering the park as passengers wait to board the trains, Mortimer&#8217;s Mortuary does a sketch with an animated skeleton explaining the rules of riding the trains, including instructions on how to stop the train in an emergency.  Additionally, instructions are broadcast during the wait in line every five minutes with clear instructions for passengers to follow, including how to stop the train.  Safety personnel walk the rails throughout the night with two-way radios to alert anyone to any unusual situation which could arise such as this.  The implication that anyone at LALS would knowingly or deliberately force them to endure the entire 20 minute ride with a wailing, terrified five year old child is not only wrong, it is absurd. </p>
<p>These volunteer club members take great pains to ensure a safe and fun ride for their passengers, and are especially sensitive to children &#8211; their biggest fans &#8211; with a successful track record of eleven years for this popular Halloween event.</p>
<p>Jeanni Schipper<br />
Spooky Chic Halloween</p>
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		<title>By: Ron</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 23:21:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Live Steamers have been doing this for 11 years.  No one has ever complained about the displays.  I guess one five-year-old in eleven years is not too bad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Live Steamers have been doing this for 11 years.  No one has ever complained about the displays.  I guess one five-year-old in eleven years is not too bad.</p>
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		<title>By: Kristin Dewey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kristin Dewey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 07:59:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This &quot;Ghost Train&quot; ride is not appropriate for small children - at all. Our 5 year old was crying and begging to get off the train for the entire twenty minute ride. I thought it would never end. There should be an age minimum - like 12!

Deranged insane &#039;inmates&#039; screaming to be let out of the cages they&#039;re smashing their heads against, electrocutions, hangings, babies eating human body parts, two headed psychotic babies, really scary giant clowns... Not fun for a five year old. 

It was a nightmare for us and I hope he doesn&#039;t have nightmares for years after this. I expected something a little tamer from Griffith Park - land of Travel Town, Pony Rides, the Carousel, etc. 

They should warn parents the ride may be too frightening for children and give them a signal to stop the train if it is. Twenty minutes is an eternity for a terrified child.

We&#039;ll never take children here again - and we love horror films. Just not for little kids. Unacceptable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This &#8220;Ghost Train&#8221; ride is not appropriate for small children &#8211; at all. Our 5 year old was crying and begging to get off the train for the entire twenty minute ride. I thought it would never end. There should be an age minimum &#8211; like 12!</p>
<p>Deranged insane &#8216;inmates&#8217; screaming to be let out of the cages they&#8217;re smashing their heads against, electrocutions, hangings, babies eating human body parts, two headed psychotic babies, really scary giant clowns&#8230; Not fun for a five year old. </p>
<p>It was a nightmare for us and I hope he doesn&#8217;t have nightmares for years after this. I expected something a little tamer from Griffith Park &#8211; land of Travel Town, Pony Rides, the Carousel, etc. </p>
<p>They should warn parents the ride may be too frightening for children and give them a signal to stop the train if it is. Twenty minutes is an eternity for a terrified child.</p>
<p>We&#8217;ll never take children here again &#8211; and we love horror films. Just not for little kids. Unacceptable.</p>
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